But in purple, he is STUNNING.
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dragonofmemoryBorn to the Purple:
Let me start off by saying I like this episode a lot. I love Adira and the plot line in general. So, without further ado, the Guide commentary.
"Re: Londo as a romantic character...bless your heart. You are the first to have nailed it absolutely on the head. If I had to write a description of the character, I doubt I could have done any better than what you just wrote. There are a *lot* of episodes that bring this out in him, including the next one up, "Born to the Purple," which I suspect will end virtually all of the hair jokes once and for all.
Anyway...yes, and thank you, that's it *precisely*."
Londo really is a romantic character. And such a tragic character. I love him to pieces, even with all the things he has yet to do. This episode really shows Londo at his best though. He's the sort of person who has the passcode "Wine, women, and song," and the love story between him and Adira is beautiful. Even though she betrays him and stabs him in the back, he is still sweet. His first thought is of her safety. Actually, I think this is the happiest we ever see Londo in the series, which might be why I like this episode so much. And when he tells Adira to wear the broach "proudly, as a free woman!" you just want to snuggle him. You can see why someone young and beautiful fell madly in love with Londo, not his title and money, which to most Centauri is what is most important. He and G'kar are fantastic characters, and this episode really shows you why.
"The point you raise is exactly correct; which is why we've set up the Psi Corps in such a way as to *prevent* them from becoming a deus ex machina all the time. This is what's always bothered me about the way "empaths" are treated on ST; it's a terrible invasion of privacy. The Psi Corps has strict rules about who can and can't be scanned, and under what conditions. In "Purple," she couldn't just go scan Trakis; she had to be hired, had to be already engaged in a business capacity, and had to find it *only* in surface thoughts, no deliberate poking. And this is the ONLY -- repeat, the ONLY -- time this is done in the entire season, aside from the accidental run-in with Londo in the pilot episode.
We'll get deeper into the rules and regs of the Psi Corps as we go, further establishing that there's a lot they're expressly forbidden from doing by law."
Oh, Psi Corps. That's actually one of the more brilliant things they did in B5, was the handling of telepaths. They're not only used commercially, but as part of the military and for not so good purposes. It's a mainframe of rules, but already they're raising issues of how many rights the telepaths have in it. It's a fantastically murky grey area in the show, that JMS doesn't shy away from in the slightest. If only the whole telepath thing in Season Five didn't happen, it would have been perfect. Then again, I think my main problem with that was the character, not the movement itself, so hey.
"Regarding Ivanova...it's not really an attempt to pull at heart strings, as it is to establish that this is someone who's had, and is still having, a pretty rough life. It's a real roller-coaster for her, and the way she survives it is to absolutely bottle it up inside. She has had angst throughout her life, and she's in for more.
We start to track that in little ways that probably no one will notice, as well as making it the occasional story point. A little way nobody'll notice: after this episode, she starts messing with her hair, which we'd deliberately set as extremely tight until now. Suddenly she doesn't have someone for whom she has to be a certain way, and she has to start finding her *own* identity, and it ain't easy."
I actually really liked the Gremlin subplot of this episode. Nar said it was a little jarring, but it's a lovely way to show how Ivanova works. She spends the whole episode teasing Garibaldi about the gold channel access, and when he finally catches her, it's heartbreaking. She doesn't tell anybody about it, doesn't want the pity, but she has to talk to her father one last time. And I love the interaction between Garibaldi and Ivanova at the end of it, with him offering to buy her a drink and her refusing. It's a nice dynamic, shows a lot about Ivanova's character, and shows that yes, JMS is going to screw with her a lot. You can actually tell Ivanova was his favorite character. He does all the same things I do: give them the best lines and put them through hell.
"There will be both sex and romance on B5 (sometimes together, sometimes not). It's perversely appropriate that in the B5 series, it's not the Commander who gets laid first, or Garibaldi, or G'Kar... it's Londo. And it's a very funny, but very touching and moving episode."
For some reason, this comment tickles me. And...
"It's a standard bed, works fine. Though we *did* have a thing in mind where Londo sits up in bed, having just had wonderful sex, and his hair is now hanging limp...but in a sudden burst of sanity we decided against it."
YES. Why did they not do this? It is hilarious. Curse you, burst of sanity. Probably a good thing, all in all, but still. It would have been awesome. Oh, Centauri and their hair...
To conclude: A very nice episode, one of my favorites in the first season, and so very, very Londo. Actually, I don't know why I like this one. It's a romantic episode. I generally hate romance. Except JMS makes me like it. Yes, I'm looking at you, Sleeping in the Light. >.> Let's not talk about the last episode and how much it makes me cry though. Or that short story JMS wrote with Marcus...
Infection:
"Sorry; there's no one more critical of my work than me, and when it comes to "Infection," I'd just kinda prefer it if it kinda vanished in the night. I feel that way about only two episodes out of 22, so that's not too bad, I suppose."
Yeah, ouch. It really is one of the weakest episodes of the season. It had a lot of problems, including Nar's points about how long Sinclair goes on during the action scene. Still, it has its moments.
"And like I said...I have problems with "Infection" as well, so there is no flame from me. I guess part of it is knowing what was in the script that should've been carried off better, but wasn't. And part of it is my fault; I tried to use the Nelson/machine as a metaphor; it wasn't supposed to be about the Nelson/machine, but about the kind of people who would create it, the kind of people who would sell it, and the kind of people who would confiscate it even KNOWING what it was (and of course the kind of people who would *use* it). Unfortunatly, when you put somebody in that kind of suit, that *becomes* the story, and from that point on you're pretty much doomed. It was also in places too much an obvious metaphor, and the "hand of the author" is showing too much. It was the first script written for this season, after the long break after the pilot, and I think I was trying to find the characters' "fingerprints" and getting into the flow of the series, which took a script or two.
The problem with "Infection" from a writing POV is that it was the FIRST one written for this season, and I was having a hard time finding the "fingerprints" of the characters again after so much time had passed after the pilot (it was nearly a year between the revising/ shooting of the pilot, and the writing of the first series script). As on *any* show, it takes a while to get up to speed once you hit series. That was the real problem, and there wasn't any real way to get past it except to write it, re-acquaint myself with the characters, and move on. I probably would have opted out of doing it had we had more scripts on hand, but we didn't. And oddly, many on the production team *liked* the script quite a lot, and kept saying it had to be done."
It's always interesting to know why writers dislike things they wrote. It's also definitely one of his weaker scripts. Which, considering it's not a bad episode, just not a great one, actually sort of says something. We're willing to forgive one or two bad episodes when the rest is spectacular anyway. <3
"Sinclair's final speech there is the simplest truth about space exploration that I can think of...and the most compelling..and the most overlooked. As Henry Kissinger once said, "It has the added benefit of being true.""
I love Sinclair's final speech in this episode. He answers the question of why we should still explore among the stars, and here is the end part of it, at least. It's one of the episode's highlights, I think. That and the conversation between him and Garibaldi about his survivor's guilt.
Final thoughts: Not a great episode. But worth watching for the end speech and for Garibaldi taking Sinclair to task for putting his life on the line so frequently.
The Parliament of Dreams:
And this is the episode we revisit Sinclair's love of Tennyson! All is right in the world. <3 For all that Infection was one of the weakest episodes, Parliament of Dreams is fantastic. I adore this episode to pieces. Oh, G'kar.
"Regarding making people laugh until their sides hurt...this is something I always go for. It's easy to go for the "well, that's amusing" stuff, but to make someone laugh out loud, or even until it hurts, is tough. In most (but not all) cases, I try to get one solid laugh per episode, one moving scene per episode, and one "head-conk" per episode. The first obligation of a writer is to make you *feel* something, and if I can do that in an episode, then I've done my job.
It helps in that I'm not generally a big laugher; when I go to plays or movies with other people, and they're comedies, afterwards I'll always get "Why didn't you like it?" "I did." "You didn't laugh." "I was just thinking about how funny it was." Usually I can see a punchline coming, and part of my brain is racing ahead to what it might be. (And half the time at least I'm right.) So I've adopted the philosophy that if I find something extremely funny, other people will laugh at it; if I'm so tickled that I absolutely laugh out loud, I know it'll probably kill several people. As a result, if I'm going for a funny scene, I don't leave it alone until I laugh at it.
When I thought about Londo passing out face first on the banquet table uttering "...but in purple, I'm *stunning*," I just about fell off my chair laughing. Sometimes I'm a little broad in my comedy, other times I go for something a little more literate or (one hopes) witty (most of these go to Ivanova, whereas the broad stuff tends to go to Londo in most cases). But I try to keep it varied.
Strangely enough, the comics that *do* manage to break me up are all the more assaultive ones...Jerry Lewis, Robin Williams, Buddy Hackett (who can reduce me to tears), and a few others."
So that line about the first obligation of a writer? Yeah, that's one of the most eloquent ways I've seen of putting why I'm not fond of Russel T. Davies. He never made me feel anything, not really. I could never get into his episodes emotionally. It's also the reason I adore season five of New Who, since I finally got that emotional attachment. It's also a statement I agree strongly with in regards to writing. Some of the reviews I treasure the most are when people say they were touched by something I wrote, or that it made them laugh or cry. If you don't make the reader feel then you're missing some crucial connection. It's something I try to do as well as I can. And everyone is going to have different things that touch you. RTD just never found the certain mix of words that did it for me, and his scripts always felt lacking. Which isn't to say he didn't touch other people, because I know a few people that said they cried while watching his seasons. It just didn't work for me to be genuinely moving.
That said, if you want to know more about the particular quote he's talking about, it's this one. Oh, Londo. You amuse me far more than you have any right to. And yes, he's completely drunk. It's one of the many, many reasons this episode is so awesome.
"BTW, this week will Bill Mumy's first week on B5, and he's done a very nifty job as Lennier. He brings a wonderful sense of absolute innocence...the proverbial innocent abroad...to Lennier's character. The Minbari prosthetics look great on him, enhancing the sense he brings to the character. He's also great with the cast, and keeping things up during shooting. At one point, as they're leaving camera, Delenn says to Lennier, who has just arrived at the station, "Now tell me of home; I have been away far too long." His ad-libbed off-camera response: "Beatlemania is back." (Another ad-lib for another shot: "Minimalls...they're everywhere," and "Well, we just got Pizza Hut and cable.")"
<3 Some of Lennier's bloopers were the best. This was one of them. I've always loved that bit.
"Regarding Catherine Sakai...believe me, this ain't a consort kind of relationship. It will be monogamous, but difficult in many ways. This has been an on-again/off-again relationship between them for years, made up of three parts passion and two parts teeth. It will be a very fiery relationship. And this is a woman with her own business, her own ship, who comes and goes as she wishes. You have to understand that I love writing strong female characters, and Catherine will be probably one of the strongest."
Atten: Who writers. Take notes. Strong female characters. We like. Though I think Ivanova is stronger, but we also had her around a lot longer. Delenn too. Just wait till her little speech to the Earth Alliance. It's quite possibly one of my favorite things ever.
"We've shot our first scenes between Sinclair and his new love interest, Catherine Sakai (as played by Julia Nickson). This is a very, very strong character, and she brings a wonderful vibrancy to Sakai. They have a unique relationship that looks and sounds like a real relationship, with all its ups and downs and dumb moments. One way that I've reinforced this is that...well, in the first episode in which they meet again (they were involved before), just about every scene between them is lifted almost directly from personal experience.
And given some of the awkward, even painful conversations that take place, it was very, *very* hard to watch this being rehearsed. (Michael and Julia worked over a weekend with the director to get the nuances just right.) When it came time to shoot the scenes, much as I wanted to be on-set, I just couldn't do it. My heart just kept falling right down to my shoes. I can't wait for the first person to say "I don't buy this as a real relationship" just so's I can whap him upside the head. But I have a hunch that won't happen. It comes across as very real, and as a very vulnerable moment for both characters.
"Write what you know," they said. Right. How about I just take a power drill and stick it in my ear...it'd be faster, less painful, and after a while I might even come to like it...."
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah, I've done that before. I try not to. It really is that painful. -_-;;; Personal experience sucks. Even making the characters a vent sucks. That's what happened with Ianto in the banana story, it was right after I had one of my students threaten me and say he wanted me to commit suicide so he could dance over my body. Which is why Ianto had a whole inner monologue how he knew he shouldn't get upset over things, but he was getting upset anyway. It's still pretty painful for me to go back and re-read that bit. Emotions suck some times. That's all I've got to say on that. But I'm glad that we got some nice Sinclair and Catherine moments from it. I always liked the scene where she walks in wanting to celebrate and Sinclair is like... 'Hold up, what?'
"The "stay put" line was ad-libbed by Andreas, because the crawfish kept crawling off the table."
*snickers* That is brilliant. I love that scene to bits and pieces. Oh, G'kar.
"RE: the glasses...it's not something I've been able to figure out how to mention, but the Narn pride themselves on their physical perfection. Hence there is no market for physical aides; it's something to be ashamed of. So they have to crib stuff from other species, like glasses that have a prescription close enough to be useful. I have *no* idea how to work that into a script, and am not sure it is even a good idea to do so."
BUT THE GLASSES WERE AWESOME. He was like all evil and shit with these adorable little gold glasses. You can't go wrong with that.
"The "fishy" song was composed by Christopher Franke specifically for that scene. I told him I wanted sort of a Narnish Gilbert and Sullivan, and that's what we got.
I would think that Londo and G'Kar might actually find something in common in appreciation of Gilbert and Sullivan. In fact, G'Kar's "little fishie" song in "Parliament of Dreams" was intended to be a bit G&S in nature."
Oh, god. I love that song. It amuses me to think that it's a Narnish Gilbert and Sullivan. Even better that Londo and G'kar would bond over Gilbert and Sullivan. Why have I not seen fic of this? This is brilliant.
"Re: G'Kar being theatrical...that's who he is. I like theatrical characters. I know many in real life that're much bigger than life, very broad...and great fun. Not every character has to be sonorous and serious and restrained. The whole point of *having* alien characters is that they shuld act differently than the majority of us."
You can't not love G'kar. He is very theatrical, but so is Londo. Really, they're half the reason to watch B5. I'm really looking forward to Nar and Erin's reactions to their eventual plotlines. <3
And for the commentary about the belief systems:
"Actually, many of the alien races do *not* have monolithic religious beliefs. You'll note that G'Kar didn't take part in the festival from the Narn POV. You'll see Narn beliefs in "By Any Means Necessary," and there it's mentioned that there are many different bliefs among Narns, G'Quon and G'Lan being the two larger systems."
Which I like. I think people don't pay specific attention to them describing it as the 'dominant' religious beliefs, not the only one. So we're just seeing slices, really. Too bad we didn't get anything from Kosh. Then again, we'd all end up just being confused... XD
"Well, we're doomed...I just realized today that our first *really* strong episode, "The Parliament of Dreams," airs the same night (in most markets, the 23rd) as the Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan face off in the olympics.
Imagine a silence vast as space...that sound is neilsen ratings meters stuck unmovingly on CBS....
Needless to say, though, we got *creamed* by the Tonya/Nancy Show. Which got a 64 share, the 3rd biggest ratings for a sporting event in history. But then, *everybody* got beat up by that one, so again it's okay."
Oh, dear. I never realized that. Little things amuse me. As bad as I feel for it, because this was an awesome episode, this is still just a little hilarious.
"This is something that Andreas and I discussed, and it's not so much that G'Kar *has* to cook, but that he *likes* to cook. From the singing, it's clear he's having a good time...."
Okay, new fic idea. Garibaldi and G'kar, cooking contest. It would be epic. I mean, come on. Iron Chief Babylon 5! And throw Sheridan in just for laughs and to have a clear loser. Poor dear. He tries.
Closing thoughts: Another of my favorite episodes. It's brilliant. Lots of really good moments and the first time we're seeing G'kar in a non-antagonist sort of light. AND LONDO IS STUNNING IN PURPLE. <3
Mind War:
Yes, this is the episode Walter Koenig (Chekov from the original Star Trek) steps into his role as a reoccurring villain. You read that right. Not only is he a bad guy, but he's a really kick ass one who is just a little creepy. This is awesomeness.
"Re: my favorite thing about this episode...it's that when all is said and done, *nobody knows anything*. Bester doesn't know what Ironheart is turning into; Sinclair doesn't know if Ironheart was really telling the truth or not; nobody knows where Ironheart went; nobody knows what the alien ship is/who they were...the closest I can come to is to compare it to writing a mystery novel, without revealing the killer, but *without* frustrating anyone in the process, because there's *closure*."
You would get a sadistic pleasure out of that. So would I, technically, so I've got no room to talk. But still.
"Thanks for noticing that. Yes, it *was* very important (to me, at least, whether or not anyone noticed it), that Ivanova was the one who handed Talia the water, and had that brief moment with her. For those who understand their relationship, it adds a tiny layer; for those who don't, because the dialogue keeps on going over it, it's not obtrusive."
The femslash! Yes, we see through your sneaky ways, JMS. Actually, I love that showing this was important to him, especially in light of what happens eventually. No spoilers, but, well. It's purposeful subtext, and I actually appreciate that he felt it was that important to show. It may be a very long payoff, but when the payoff gets there it's worth it.
"Funny incident today, though, also at lunch. Walter Koenig joined some of the cast members at their table for lunch, and as he came to the table, they all stood up at attention. When asked why, they explained that it's protocol for junior officers to stand when a senior officer comes to the table. It was kind of a nice moment."
I find this absolutely adorable.
""JMS is on an anti-typecasting crusade."
That's actually true, in a lot of ways. My sense is that here we have many actors who created enduring works because they were good at what they did; they're *good actors*. But because they were so good at it, they got typecast as only able to play that. How many people snickered, wrongly, when they heard Walter was going to be Bester? "Chekhov in the Psi Corps," was the usual lament.
Until they *saw* him. And saw what he could do.
To work against the typecasting is simply payment on a debt to those who created enduring characters. And I'll continue to do it wherever and whenever I can."
AND HE WAS AWESOME. Oh, Bester. He's one of the greatest minor, but reoccurring, characters on B5. His episodes are always really good. Which makes us weep for what could have been in Crusade. Apparently, there was an episode with Bester planned, and Walter Koenig said it was one of the best Bester scripts he had ever read. Curse you, TNT. Sigh. I'm just going to go cry in my corner now and pretend not to think about the lost possibilities of Crusade. Anyway, this isn't the last time he transforms a ST actor with awesome results. Just wait.
"We'd initially offered Walter the role of Knight Two in "Sky," but when his health prohibited using him, we went to Patrick McGoohan, who loved the script, wanted to do it, but was going to be out of the country at the time of shooting. We then shifted Walter to "Mind War.""
Oh, god. Mind blown. Do you have any idea how creepy he would have been in that part? Nar doesn't yet, since that's not one of the episodes we got to, but Christ, I think I would have paid to see that. I would never want to give him up for Bester, but it would have been good. It would have been so very, very good.
"Ironheart was created, as one of many reasons, to exemplify a problem that is growing within Psi Corps. There will be other symptoms, though not as grand as that one.
The Psi Corps doesn't exist just to help telepaths avoid infringing on the privacy of others. They service the business community, the military, some other governmental agencies...it's important that they control, regulate, and profit from telepaths. You can't just leave the corps.
"Mind War" is important to the arc because Psi Corps, and certain aspects of it, is important to the arc."
The Corps is Mother. The Corps is Father. Oh, I love the Psi Corps. I mentioned earlier the shows treatment of telepaths is brilliant (for the most part. We won't go into season 5 at the moment...), and it's one of the many, many lovely plot threads that are starting to be woven. Also, can I say what they did with TK is fantastic? Most to the time people focus on the whole bending spoon things or throwing massive objects in midair. They wanted him to go smaller and smaller, until he could pinch just the right vein and be an invisible assassin. When put that way, telekensis is actually a fairly frightening power. It's the Vader choke, but the kind that actually intidates you since you have no idea who is doing it.
"The ant was paid strictly according to SAG rules (Screen Ants Guild)."
ROFL. I love you, JMS. I really do. And that scene is one of the best.
"The one thing that to me always typified SF was the sense of *wonder*. Of something mysterious out there. And that is the one thing that I feel is so missing from much of TV SF; not to pick on ST, but the reality is that going from world to world seems like going from 7-11 to 7-11. It's all established, there's not much mystery. (Not in all cases, I'm sure that one or two could be found, but in general.) There should be *differences*, and things we don't understand and will *never* fully understand. (For me, one of the best episodes in this regard is "Mind War," specifically the tag of the episode, which still gives me a shiver even though I've now seen it over a dozen times.)"
And this is when I accuse him of being a hopeless romantic, which he is (and he admits. I point to the Marcus short story in proof!). That is one of my favorite scenes in this episode though. G'kar is just... God, I love his little speeches. Seriously, I could start drooling every monologue he has, because he's just a fantastic orator.
Final thoughts: Lots of reasons to love this episode. It's the first time we see G'kar not actively vilified. Sure, he wasn't an antagonist in the last episode, but in this one he does something good, and he does it just because. "Why not?" XD I wish they had a sound clip of his warning to Catherine that not everyone on Babylon 5 is what they seem. It's a brilliant line for the series.
Also, Talia. I adore this clip of her talking about telepathic sex. It's a very vulnerable moment for her, and it's fantastic. I love how she describes what telepaths go through during sex too. Even if the subtext femslash in this one is very minimal, what is there is good and the rest with her is a very good example of her character. I like Talia. It's not often we get episodes that focus on her and this one did very well on that.
Basically, another good episode. XD
So, this should be the last of my commentaries for a while, at least until Nar agrees to another day of B5 watching. Speaking of... *gives Nar kitten eyes* You wouldn't happen to have a free day any time soon?
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Date: 2012-02-17 04:06 am (UTC)Oh man, I loved "Born to the Purple." LONDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! <3 I still think the Gremlin subplot was jarring, though. I was just so OVERWHELMED by the amazing Londo-ness that I kept forgetting about whatever was going on with Ivanova. XD
Oh Infection. So not as great. But yeah, that last speech is still pretty awesome.
Re: writers and emotions. RTD's a weird one. A really weird one. There were a couple of episodes from Nine's season that did emotions to me (Dalek aaaaahhhhhhhh), but not that many from Ten's seasons. I think he just got worse as he went (sorry, RTD!). And, oddly, I'm not sure if I'm really an "emotional" viewer; I like to watch things which make me contemplative. However, those few shows that can strike both the contemplative and the emotional chord in me are the best ones. Although I guess invoking contemplation can be an emotional field, too, if it makes you contemplate emotions. Yeah, I'm going somewhere weird with this so I'll stop.
Oh Walter Koenig. :D Actually, there was the "Mirror, Mirror" episode of Star Trek where he got to play an evil version of Chekov, and both my friend and I agreed that Koenig could play a really, really terrifying villain role. Also, he is like the scariest creeper EVER in "Day of the Dove," where he freaking almost rapes that Klingon woman in his alien-induced madness. IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT HIS EVIL ACTING POTENTIAL GOT ITS DUE.
Scotty was almost a villain!!!! :O
I love how he says he's not picking on Star Trek, but he really kinda is. XD (Though that's probably more to do with the interviewer bringing it up than him, I'll bet.)
Nope, the free days ain't this weekend, I'm afraid. :(
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Date: 2012-02-17 04:33 am (UTC)Yeah, it's never seemed all that jarring to me. But then, I'm also extremely used to JMS running two completely different plot lines at once, sometimes with different tones. He did that mostly because B5 is a huge place and is therefore nearly always busy. Which is what made watching Crusade a bit weird, because they do a lot more focused episodes in that one and I kept expecting multiple subplots. XD Dude, there's a reason my B5 rp ficlet was over 65k. Because once Cy threatened me with bodily harm if I didn't cross the rp over with B5, I had to run like, two or three different plotlines along side the main one, and really, the main one was long enough to begin with. >.< Which is why I'm also wondering if I'm crazy to want to re-write it for Who canon, because really, I'm not sure I'm that insane to want to do that to myself again.
Londo does totally steal that episode though. <3 Oh, Londo.
Dalek wasn't actually written by RTD. It was written by Robert Shearman, who wrote the original Big Finish Audio that Dalek was based on. So that is why there are more emotions in that episode than episodes RTD wrote.
Though, when you say that, I have to wonder how the hell you haven't managed B5 before. Emotional and contemplative pretty much sums it up. Oh, and a few booms to go along with it. No boom today, boom tomorrow, after all. XD
I know I've seen that episode. The problem is, I watched most Star Trek when I was wee and impressionable, which means I've forgotten a good half of it. Seriously, I've watched episodes of Next Gen with friends and remember one or two scenes, enough to know that I've watched it, and remember absolutely nothing about the show. -_-;;; Sadly, I've never been able to sit through a marathon more than the first season of Next Gen, because I get bored with it and forget. I need to find that DS9 episode of the Doctor going all James Bond in the holodeck though. That episode was awesome.
Walter Koenig = awesome villain. He just is. How anyone could think differently is beyond me.
Sadness... Perhaps another time then.
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Date: 2012-02-17 04:43 am (UTC)Thaaaaaat explains it. XD
I have to wonder how the hell you haven't managed B5 before
I have no idea either. It's probably more to do with the fact that I wasn't into sci-fi shows when I was <10, so it just never entered my radar. Unfortunately, though, I had this instead: http://youtu.be/uP8_g8AQ7X0 GAWD CANADIAN PROGRAMMING WHY SO TERRIFYING. Wait until you get to the part where they say they're married. XD
**hiss** DS9. Nooooo. Noooooo.
Walter Koenig=world's greatest criminal mind
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Date: 2012-02-17 12:46 pm (UTC):o Oh, my. That is terrifying. I'll stick with B5 for my childhood, thanks.
Generally, I agree with you on DS9. But the Bond episode was actually one of the better holodeck episodes (Evil Sisko was kind of awesome, actually) and then there's the Trials and Tribulations episode... which let's face it. If there is an episode that rocked so hard core, it was that one. *snickers when they can't use the elevator*
He really is. Wait till you see half the stuff he gets up to. <3
Badass Evil Chekov
Date: 2012-02-17 05:11 am (UTC)Conclusion: Walter Koenig is scary as hell when he's being evil.
From "Mirror, Mirror": http://youtu.be/_oOqQ38XLv8
From "Day of the Dove": http://youtu.be/KfTV-pLahW8
(Yeah, and ignore the stupid person who posted the clip who seems to think he wasn't trying to rape her. He clearly WAS. I still can't believe 1960s Star Trek got away with that.)
Re: Badass Evil Chekov
Date: 2012-02-17 12:38 pm (UTC)Oh, just you wait. You've barely even seen the tip of Bester. That evil is nothing in comparison. <3
Also, you have to love the old school Klingons...